Training Advice


3 Great Marathon Predictor Workouts

Greg McMillan, M.S.

As the race approaches, marathoners want to know which pace is the right pace - the one that achieves the fastest time possible and avoids the all too common fade in the final few miles. This article discusses the three workouts that I use to gauge the best race pace for the marathoners I coach. The predictions are not fool-proof, but I find them to work for the vast majority of marathoners. As you prepare for your next marathon, these workouts can be helpful in your race planning.

The 3 Best Marathon Predictor Workouts

Fast Finish Long Runs

The Fast Finish Long Run has quickly become a mainstay for competitive marathoners. I learned it from Gabriele Rosa - the coach of world record holder Paul Tergat - but many other coaches and athletes have used it successfully for years. On my website, a detailed article on how to run a fast finish long run is presented. I recommend that you read the article in addition to this section.

In the fast finish long run, you run the first eight to 12 miles of a 14- to 18-mile long run at your normal long run pace . However, over the last three to 10 miles of the run, you run faster and faster. Once you've become accustomed to this workout, I've found that if you can finish these very strong and fast, you are on target to achieve your marathon goal.

Fast finish long runs are very tough workouts so you shouldn't do them very often or run too many of them in any one marathon training cycle.

I suggest alternating a weekly fast finish long run with a more typical weekly long, steady run. If you can run three to five of these fast long runs in the eight to 12 weeks prior to your marathon, they become a very accurate predictor of your ability to not just run the marathon but to race your best marathon.

Lastly, you shouldn't 'taper' for your fast finish long runs. Instead, go into each one as you would any other long run otherwise the pace you achieve isn't as accurate of a predictor of your best marathon pace.

Long Distance Race

A second favorite marathon predictor workout is a long distance race. I really like for my marathoners to race a half-marathon a few weeks prior to the marathon (though any race from 15K to 30K works). To get your marathon pace prediction, use my McMillan Calculator. Just select the distance of the race you ran and input your time. Hit submit and check to see your predicted marathon time.

Another estimate of your marathon time is to double your half-marathon time and add five minutes. For example, if you run 1:30:00 for a half-marathon then this method would predict that you could run 3:05:00 for a marathon. I find, however, that doubling your half-marathon and adding seven minutes is slightly more accurate for most runners. Doubling the half and adding five minutes seems to work really well for pure marathoners, those runners who do poorly in short races but excel (and love) long workouts and races. Alternately, Tim Noakes, author of Lore of Running, suggests that you multiply your half-marathon time (in minutes) by 2.11 to get your marathon time (in minutes). No matter how you do it, though, a long distance race is another great workout that can help you accurately predict your fastest marathon pace.

One note about how close to the marathon you should run a long distance race: I recommend a minimum of three weeks between a half-marathon and the marathon, though I prefer four to five. Also, the longer the race, the further away from the marathon it should occur.

Yasso 800s

The third prediction workout comes from the folks at Runner's World and is called Yasso 800s. Like the fast finish long run, I recommend that you read the detailed article on the Runner's World website (link below) for complete information on how to run the workout.

The theory behind Yasso 800s is that your time in minutes and seconds for a workout of 10 times 800 meters (two laps of the track) with equal recovery time is the same as the hours and minutes of your marathon time. For example, if you can run 10 times 800 meters in three minutes and 20 seconds with three minutes and 20 seconds recovery, then this predicts that you can run three hours and 20 minutes for your marathon. Run 2:40 for the 800s and you can run 2:40 for the marathon.

My experience, though, is that Yasso 800s predicts about five minutes too fast for most marathoners. Using the example above, my experience has been that 10 times 800 meters in 3:20 with 3:20 recovery yields closer to a 3:25 marathon for most competitive runners. Because this workout is easy to do, I try to include it two or three times in a marathon training cycle. It not only provides a good predictor of marathon pace but allows you to chart your increasing fitness - a big confidence builder.

I typically use all three of these predictor workouts with each marathoner I coach and recommend that you do the same. These three workouts give you a great overview of your total capabilities - your endurance and durability (fast finish long run), your ability to run fast for a long period of time (long distance race) and your aerobic capacity (Yasso 800s). Taken together, I find them to be very, very accurate.


All of these predictor workouts assume that you have done all the prerequisite training for a marathon - consistent volume of running, long runs, lactate threshold workouts, etc. You can't just go run one of the predictor workouts and expect it to be accurate if you've not done the training. Without the proper prerequisite marathon training, you may find yourself in a world of trouble late in the race!

Also, aside from the long distance race, don't taper for the fast finish long run or Yasso 800s workouts. Just do them as a normal key workout and get the result. I know that you'll want to have a great workout, but in the end it's more important to get an accurate picture of your marathon potential than to soothe your ego with a great workout that you tapered for.

Finally, the predictor workouts are for a normal marathon - one with mostly flat terrain and good marathoning weather. Adjustments have to be made for difficult courses (like Boston), races where the weather can effect the race (hot/humid conditions or windy conditions) or races where you may not have support in either race competitors, the crowds or volunteers. In these cases, you would be wise to be more conservative and create a race plan that is appropriate for your particular race.

In Closing

All predictors are estimates. We just cannot control how you will feel on the day, what the weather will be like, how your competition will pan out and numerous other factors. However, I've found that the predictor workouts described above offer marathoners with helpful information that can aid in race planning. Prepare the best you can, have faith in yourself, respect the distance, use these predictor workouts to establish a smart race plan and hope for the best on race day. Good luck!

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McMillan Running Company Fast Finish Long Run Article

McMillan Running Company McMillan's Running Calculator

Runner's World Yasso 800s Article


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John H. / This Program Works!

I gotta hand it to you. Your training program really produces results.Those long intervals and fast finish runs really paid off today. Thanks for helping me to become a much better runner.

Clive K / Marathon PR

Using Greg's customized program took over 9 minutes off my PR- 3:23:32 in Berlin. The only way to train is using McMillan customized training program.

Lindsay M. / Marathon PR

Thank you!! I finished 3 mins under my goal (3:57) and I owe it all to the fast finish runs!